My 25 inch [0.64m] FR2.6 is a bigger success than I dared hope.
I want that wonderful large aperture super wide angle light going into both of my eyes. So I set my sights on a 30 inch binoscope with sub F3 focal ratio
I've long dreamed of building a binoscope after viewing through a number of wonderful binoscopes at the Oregon Star Party.
Memorable was an all night 'shootout' pitting Bruce Sayre's 22 inch binoculars against Dan Gray's 28 inch.
I've shied away from binoscopes: they are very challenging to build and operate and I've not seen a fast binoscope built to use 2 inch diameter coma correctors.
Seeing Robert Asumundi's 3D printed 8 inch binoscope though gives me hope that 3D printing can be used to build the complex IPD and focusing components.
At best I'll build a giant super fast binoscope, at worst I'll have a couple of 30 inch FR2.7 mirrors that I'll turn into standard telescopes.
There are considerable advantages to binoscopes:
Serous binoscope drawbacks:
Here are my inspirations and references:
Binocular history:
The P2 coma correctors present some design challenges. The tunable top will have to be removed and the threaded base machined back on a side. I looked at inserting the tertiary between the P2's upper and lower lens assemblies, but it is a tight fit and it means remounting the P2 lens sets. The alternative is to keep the P2 intact, adding 3 inches to the secondary to focal plane distance and an inch to the secondary size.
Here's my study of head placement with respect to the 30 inch mirrors and the resulting eye to secondary distances. Looks like I will need 18 inches from the secondary to the focal plane to avoid heads blocking the edges of the mirrors. One optimization I am considering is to trade some head blockage for a smaller diagonal size, for example, moving the head an inch into the mirror's light path blocks maybe 10 square inches but reduces the secondary size by an inch which is worth 30 square inches. The head's intrusion results in each eye seeing the obstruction on opposite sides of the field of view, so it is possible that the brain's conscious computation of the image will compensate somewhat.
Naively if a traditional reflector then the secondary size need only be 6.5 inches m.a. (using a short L of 17 inches and FR of 2.73). For a sub-F3 binoscope, we need five inches for the light path bending due to the P2 coma corrector, 2.5 inches for the eye to the side of the head distance and a minimum of 0.5 inches for the tube. That gives an additional distance beyond the mirror's edge of 5+2.5+0.5=8 inches. Adding this 8 inches to the mirror's radius gives an L of 23 inches (8+15). The minimum sized secondary then is 8.5 inches m.a. x 12.0 inches major axis with an obstruction of 8%. Rather sobering in size and weight though the primary mirror to focal plane distance is only 82-23+5=64 inches, making for a relatively short tube.
If we increase size to the maximum I am willing to consider, a 1:3 ratio with the primary, in this case a 10 inch secondary, then we have a maximum L of 27.3 inches (10*FR of 2.73=27.3). Let's make it 27 inches even. The P2 coma corrector needs to be 18 inches from the primary mirror's center. This means that we can bend back the light angle to shorten the tube further. How much? From my secondary light bending angle study, the light can be bent back at a 28.5 degree angle resulting in the focal point being 51.7 inches from the primary mirror's center, about the eyepiece height as my 25 inch FR2.6 of 48.5 inches. However, when the telescope is pointed vertically, the eyepiece height plus the eye relief will need to be added to get the eye's height from the primary mirror's center. That's about 6 additional inches for the Ethos 17mm eyepiece for a total height of ~58 inches. The secondary needs to be 10 inches minor axis by 11.6 inches major axis for an obstruction of 10%, just 2% more than the right angle diagonals analyzed in the previous paragraph.
Here's my worksheet (Sketchup graphic) of my study of orientations. It was a worthwhile and interesting exercise though time consuming too.
Imaging merging is done in two ways:
According to Arie Otto, the steps to merge the image by moving the primary mirrors are:
Here, image merging uses the collimation screws; consequently collimation needs to be touched up after image merging. This concerns me because the optical alignment must be perfect at FR 2.7. I suppose the impact of this depends on the frequency that the images must be re-merged. Safest choice is imaging merging by aligning two separate tube assemblies, where each tube assembly is collimated ahead of time and stays collimated throughout the observing run.
Here's my design (note the stretched altitude axis rims to bring up the eyepiece height when pointed near the horizon):
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While the height is amazingly short, the footprint is dauntingly large and very large secondaries a project in themselves.
Here is my design thinking using my NewtDesigner tool.
An interesting idea by Clive Milne is to diverge the eyepieces, then either laterally offset them to re-center the fields or mis-align the optical tube assemblies to compensate. This leads to a more compact 3D design with smaller secondaries.
Here are some images and discussions.
See the Cloudy Nights discussion along with this diagram showing how to offset the eyepieces and this post showing which rotations are allowed.
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